Comments on: Amazon is Library 2.0 http://magia3e.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/amazon-is-library-20/ ...what's inside my head? Sun, 06 Jul 2008 20:02:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: Delayed gratification is not 2.0? at Andrew Boyd’s Blog http://magia3e.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/amazon-is-library-20/#comment-1420 Delayed gratification is not 2.0? at Andrew Boyd’s Blog Tue, 05 Jun 2007 22:35:55 +0000 http://magia3e.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/amazon-is-library-20/#comment-1420 [...] all very 2.0 these days - Library 2.0, Knowledge Worker 2.0, Government [...] [...] all very 2.0 these days - Library 2.0, Knowledge Worker 2.0, Government [...]

]]> By: Library 2.0: Get it out of the library? at Facibus Reviews http://magia3e.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/amazon-is-library-20/#comment-1234 Library 2.0: Get it out of the library? at Facibus Reviews Mon, 28 May 2007 23:39:01 +0000 http://magia3e.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/amazon-is-library-20/#comment-1234 [...] make them accessible via an easy-to-use API - Amazon does this. When I told Matthew that to me, Amazon is Library 2.0, I was only half joking - and the more I think about it, the closer it gets to my [...] [...] make them accessible via an easy-to-use API - Amazon does this. When I told Matthew that to me, Amazon is Library 2.0, I was only half joking - and the more I think about it, the closer it gets to my [...]

]]> By: What is Library 2.0? « Matt’s Musings http://magia3e.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/amazon-is-library-20/#comment-1120 What is Library 2.0? « Matt’s Musings Wed, 23 May 2007 00:41:30 +0000 http://magia3e.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/amazon-is-library-20/#comment-1120 [...] is Library 2.0? I’ve been blogging with Pete a lot about Library 2.0. When I posted Amazon is Library 2.0, he countered with asking the question what is Library 2.0? Do we have any actual examples of [...] [...] is Library 2.0? I’ve been blogging with Pete a lot about Library 2.0. When I posted Amazon is Library 2.0, he countered with asking the question what is Library 2.0? Do we have any actual examples of [...]

]]> By: coRank http://magia3e.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/amazon-is-library-20/#comment-1116 coRank Tue, 22 May 2007 22:41:46 +0000 http://magia3e.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/amazon-is-library-20/#comment-1116 <strong>Amazon is Library 2.0</strong> Today, relating some examples of Library 2.0 my colleague Andrew Boyd made the following suggestion to me: "Amazon is Library 2.0". Was Andrew very far from the truth? Amazon is Library 2.0

Today, relating some examples of Library 2.0 my colleague Andrew Boyd made the following suggestion to me: “Amazon is Library 2.0″. Was Andrew very far from the truth?

]]> By: Uffe Jon Ploug http://magia3e.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/amazon-is-library-20/#comment-1113 Uffe Jon Ploug Tue, 22 May 2007 16:52:49 +0000 http://magia3e.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/amazon-is-library-20/#comment-1113 Interesting thought - a private vendor as the heir to a public service. The economist in me is excited. It makes sense that people don't want to be the drivers in every improvement process. We expect the providers - public as well as private - to take initiative (preferably by reading our minds). I think libraries are falling behind very quickly, but I do think that they have a role to play, in part because of their specialty knowledge (which is their own argument for being slow to change - they feel that they know best). The trick for them is to share their expertise without becoming judges of what is right, wrong, or politically incorrect. Wikipedia is a case in point: the use of selfproclaimed experts was a strength in the beginning, but is now becoming a problem, like in the case of US Congress employees changing information about their employers to make them look good (or of opponents to make them look bad). Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger has created Citizendium.org as an expert-guided public information portal. If this works, perhaps libraries can take it as inspiration for future endeavours. /Uffe Interesting thought - a private vendor as the heir to a public service. The economist in me is excited. It makes sense that people don’t want to be the drivers in every improvement process. We expect the providers - public as well as private - to take initiative (preferably by reading our minds).

I think libraries are falling behind very quickly, but I do think that they have a role to play, in part because of their specialty knowledge (which is their own argument for being slow to change - they feel that they know best). The trick for them is to share their expertise without becoming judges of what is right, wrong, or politically incorrect.

Wikipedia is a case in point: the use of selfproclaimed experts was a strength in the beginning, but is now becoming a problem, like in the case of US Congress employees changing information about their employers to make them look good (or of opponents to make them look bad). Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger has created Citizendium.org as an expert-guided public information portal. If this works, perhaps libraries can take it as inspiration for future endeavours.

/Uffe

]]> By: Pete http://magia3e.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/amazon-is-library-20/#comment-1094 Pete Tue, 22 May 2007 08:18:04 +0000 http://magia3e.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/amazon-is-library-20/#comment-1094 PS there's a great mini graphic novel in the <a>Unshelved</a> collection <a href="http://www.overduemedia.com/images/store/book-LMCM-large.jpg" rel="nofollow">Library Mascot Cage Match</a>which answers a lot of the questions posed, more eloquently than I can. it's damn funny too ;) PS there’s a great mini graphic novel in the Unshelved collection Library Mascot Cage Matchwhich answers a lot of the questions posed, more eloquently than I can. it’s damn funny too ;)

]]> By: Pete http://magia3e.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/amazon-is-library-20/#comment-1093 Pete Tue, 22 May 2007 08:13:33 +0000 http://magia3e.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/amazon-is-library-20/#comment-1093 To me libraries are absolutely <i>not</i>about information. At least that is not all they are about. They are, as is said, about community access to stories, ideas, ideals and to people who care about those things. Fundamentally Amazon is a business. It cares about money. That is not in any way a bad thing, but there it is- the basic difference. It is about buying books and all the cosy fuzzy warmth of social Amazon is designed to sell more books. Again, nowt wrong with that, but I wouldn't want to confuse it with playing nice ;) If libraries could emulate Amazon- which they are to some extent- all good. Building in commenting, sharing ideas etc. But they must not lose sight of the fact that they <i>are</i> a physical entity, and are about as much bringing people into contact with each other and the space that libraries represent as they are about 'information.' Amazon can't recommend one book I'd like a lot of the time- it can just about tell me what other people bought which is not the same thing ;) Amazon can't learn about me the way a local library could, given the resources. This could then be parlayed into a social computing base, alongside Amazon style recommendations. To me libraries are absolutely notabout information. At least that is not all they are about. They are, as is said, about community access to stories, ideas, ideals and to people who care about those things.
Fundamentally Amazon is a business. It cares about money. That is not in any way a bad thing, but there it is- the basic difference. It is about buying books and all the cosy fuzzy warmth of social Amazon is designed to sell more books. Again, nowt wrong with that, but I wouldn’t want to confuse it with playing nice ;)
If libraries could emulate Amazon- which they are to some extent- all good. Building in commenting, sharing ideas etc. But they must not lose sight of the fact that they are a physical entity, and are about as much bringing people into contact with each other and the space that libraries represent as they are about ‘information.’
Amazon can’t recommend one book I’d like a lot of the time- it can just about tell me what other people bought which is not the same thing ;) Amazon can’t learn about me the way a local library could, given the resources. This could then be parlayed into a social computing base, alongside Amazon style recommendations.

]]> By: Andrew Boyd http://magia3e.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/amazon-is-library-20/#comment-1089 Andrew Boyd Tue, 22 May 2007 04:51:10 +0000 http://magia3e.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/amazon-is-library-20/#comment-1089 Thanks Matt, lots of good reasons why there was something to my jest in this post - I know that I am not the first person to have made the comparison, but the feeling that I am not alone is gratifying :) I think that there are two main parts to Library 2.0 for me: - that the library really is no longer a physical construct but an information support system, and - that there are a lot of people adding value to it - the librarians and library assistants are an important part, but there are a lot of other people involved now in a contribution sense. Cheers, Andrew Thanks Matt,

lots of good reasons why there was something to my jest in this post - I know that I am not the first person to have made the comparison, but the feeling that I am not alone is gratifying :)

I think that there are two main parts to Library 2.0 for me:
- that the library really is no longer a physical construct but an information support system, and
- that there are a lot of people adding value to it - the librarians and library assistants are an important part, but there are a lot of other people involved now in a contribution sense.

Cheers, Andrew

]]> By: p0ps blog http://magia3e.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/amazon-is-library-20/#comment-1087 p0ps blog Tue, 22 May 2007 02:57:22 +0000 http://magia3e.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/amazon-is-library-20/#comment-1087 <strong>Amazon is Library 2.0</strong> Amazon is not about buying books, but is about people, about community building, enabled through the participation that social computing brings. It achieves this through trust and encouraging users to write, rate, and comment against everything in thei... Amazon is Library 2.0

Amazon is not about buying books, but is about people, about community building, enabled through the participation that social computing brings. It achieves this through trust and encouraging users to write, rate, and comment against everything in thei…

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